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21 Feb

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Would the creation of an English Parliament result in a system of Federal Government of the United Kingdom?

An English Parliament modelled on the Scottish Parliament would not require the introduction of a federal system of government. A federal system would involve having a written constitution for the United Kingdom that would legally enshrine the powers of the Parliaments of the countries that form the United Kingdom. In a devolved system, following the example of Scotland, the Parliament of the United Kingdom would retain its sovereign powers. The powers devolved would be subject to change by statute enacted by that parliament. Our unwritten constitutional arrangements would adapt and evolve to produce a uniquely British system of democratic government.

Would an English Parliament lead to the break up of the United Kingdom? 

The Union is a political idea that has survived for nearly three hundred years in spite of many changing circumstances. An English Parliament modelled on the Scottish Parliament would not, itself, lead to the break-up of the United Kingdom, which would continue but in a different form. The strongest demand for withdrawal is from Scotland, where independence is an objective of the SNP. Scotland was accorded devolved powers in the expectation that it would help to keep it in the United Kingdom. The Campaign for an English Parliament seeks the same democratic structures and opportunities for England. If that reasonable demand is not met, there will be an injustice festering at the heart of the UK constitution. That injustice would become increasingly evident and resented should a government without a majority of parliamentary seats in England, use the votes of Scottish and Welsh MPs to push through policies and legislation that apply only to England. It is that, not an English Parliament, which will generate ill feeling and undermine confidence in the Union. It is better to address the problem now rather than wait until discontent grows, as it surely will, and undermines confidence in the political process.

Would an English Parliament become too powerful since it would represent a disproportionately large number of people and wealth compared with the other parts of the Union?

An English Parliament with the same devolved powers of a Scottish Parliament would not unbalance the Union. Each parliament would be responsible for policy and the allocation of resources within its own territory. The effect of size would be no greater than that already existing in the UK parliament where 81% of the MPs represent English constituencies. Devolution marks an important stage in English constitutional and democratic history. The people of England are entitled to be consulted and given a choice about the form devolution should take. Other matters, such as those relating to the size and power of England, can be dealt with in a constitutional settlement for the whole UK, which could include reform of the House of Lords.

Would a United Kingdom Parliament with only retained powers provide an effective, overall government? 

English matters take up over half the time of the present parliament, which frequently complains that there is insufficient time available to discuss and decide on important legislation. There would be more time to concentrate on important international, European, economic, defence and Union matters that are vital to the whole UK. Every MP would have a complete interest in the subjects under consideration. Even more importantly, Ministers would have greater time to devote to issues affecting the destiny of the United Kingdom and preserving its interests internationally.

How would an English Parliament affect proposals for a reformed Second Chamber?

Following the Scottish model, primary English legislation on matters devolved to an English Parliament would not be subject to review by a Second Chamber, but legislation concerning the extensive retained powers would continue to be reviewed. With English MPs continuing to be the largest group in the Commons, a second chamber is likely to continue to be needed in the UK Parliament to ensure that the interests of all parts of the UK are given full consideration. The Constitutional Committee of the House of Lords, or its successor, may be of importance in resolving any problems concerning the definition and use of retained and devolved powers. However, the powers and constitution of the Second Chamber are separate subjects that should not directly affect or delay the devolution of powers to an English Parliament.

How should a decision on an English Parliament be made? 

A referendum should be held. To consider the full implications and frame the right questions (based on those put to Scotland), this would need to be preceded by a Constitutional Commission, ideally with all party support. In order to prevent delay, the Commission would need to be given a latest date for its recommendations.

What would be the size of an English Parliament and what would be the voting method used for its election? 

These are pertinent questions for decision by a Constitutional Commission. Obviously, there are problems of proliferating the number of MPs. However, this was not allowed to affect the decision on devolution to Scotland and Wales where, because of the proportional representation system adopted, the numbers elected to their Parliament and Assembly exceed the number of their Westminster MPs. In any case, the representational requirements of an English Parliament are likely to be less than the total numbers needed for nine regional assemblies and cost far less. A full review of the representational needs of the Westminster Parliament has been advocated (Norton Report) and, while changes to constituencies would affect all parliaments, including an English Parliament, this should not become a reason for delaying its creation.

Would Regional Government in England be a better solution for English democracy?

Regional Government cannot be an alternative to an English Parliament because it is impracticable to devolve powers of enacting primary legislation to nine regions (covering subjects such as the NHS, education and transport). The existing problems identified in the West Lothian and English questions would remain. However, an English Parliament would have the power to alter the local government systems in England and this could include the introduction of some form of Regional Government, if that is what the people of England want. For instance, an English Parliament might wish to have a Select Committee for each region with the elected English MPs of each region being the equivalent of an Assembly.

Where would the English Parliament sit?

This would need to be an early democratic decision of the English Parliament and it could be sited anywhere in England. The Constitutional Commission would need to select a convenient temporary building to start with.

Proposals have been put forward for an English Parliament in the House of Commons with the House of Lords becoming the United Kingdom Parliament. Alternatively, that the present MPs from English constituencies should sit as an English Parliament for part of the week, with a separate English executive. Are these valid proposals?

These are matters for consideration by a Constitutional Commission. The Campaign is for the establishment of an English Parliament and Executive with powers at least equivalent to those devolved to Scotland. All options for exactly how it should be established should be examined democratically and resulting recommendations put to the people in a referendum.

Who are the “People of England” who should be represented in an English Parliament ?

Every person on the electoral roll in England would be eligible to elect an MP to serve their interests and those of their children.

Is there really a serious constitutional problem to worry about?

Ever since devolution to Scotland and Wales in 1997 there has been a growing concern about the Constitution, including the effect on the government of England. This is evidenced by many Parliamentary discussions, letters, articles and comment in the media and a spate of books, pamphlets, reports and speeches. To name but a few, they include:

  • John Barnes, Federal Britain &- No Longer Unthinkable, Centre for Policy Studies 1998.
  • Teresa Gorman MP, A Parliament for England 1999.
  • William Hague speeches:
    • Thinking creatively about the Constitution Feb 1998;
    • Strengthening the Union after Devolution July 1999 (both to the Centre of Policy Studies;)
  • A Conservative View of Constitutional Change in Oxford, November 2000.
  • Professor, Lord Norton, Report of the Commission to Strengthen Parliament July 2000.
  • Jocelyn Ormond, An English Parliament &- A Proposal for Fairness and Transparency in a New Constitutional Settlement for Britain, Bow Group 1999.
  • Professor Robert Hazell, Constitutional Futures &- History of the Next Ten Years, 1999, ISBN 0-19-829801-3
  • Professor Robert Hazell, The State and the Nations : The First Year of Devolution, December 2000, ISBN 0-907845-80-0.
  • Andrew Marr, The Day Britain Died, 2000, ISBN 1-86197-223-7 (This was the subject of a major BBC TV Series.)
  • Jeremy Paxman, The English, 1998, ISBN 0-7181-4263-2
  • Simon Heffer, Nor Shall my Sword : The Re-invention of England, 1999
  • Norman Davies, The Isles : A History, 1999.
  • Michael Wood, In Search of England, 1999, ISBN 0-140-24733-5
  • Peter Hitchens, The Abolition of Britain, reprint 2000, ISBN 0-7043-8140-0
  • John Humphrys, The Rape of the Constitution, 2000, ISBN 0-907845-70-3
  • John Lovejoy, The Deculturalisation of the English People, 2000, ISBN 1-903313-00-7
  • Tony Linsell (Ed), Our Englishness, 2000, ISBN 1-898281-24-6
  • Vernon Bogdanor, Devolution in the United Kingdom, ISBN 0-19-289310-6
  • Roger Scruton, England &- An Elegy, 2000
  • Tony Linsell, An English Nationalism, 2001, ISBN 1-903313-01-5
  • Sir Richard Body, England for the English, 200, ISBN 1-872410-14-6

Are the people of England really concerned ?

There is a steadily increasing concern as the debate develops and the unfairness to England resulting from devolution to Scotland becomes more apparent. In a report by the National Council for Social Research (1999) it was stated that the number of English people who declared that their allegiance solely to England had more than doubled to 17% from 7% in the last two years. Over 32% saw themselves as more English than British while over 37% saw themselves as equally British and English. In spite of considerable publicity for Regional Assemblies, only 15% expressed themselves in favour of the Assemblies while 18% favoured the much less publicised idea of a new English Parliament. These percentages indicate a strong developing trend towards the electorate believing that England and its people have interests and priorities that may be different from other parts of the United Kingdom. Furthermore, continuing irritations are expressed in the media about matters such as:

  • The ability of the Scottish Parliament to introduce legislation more favourable to its people than that applicable to those in England e.g. University fees; Care of the Elderly; certain NHS prescription drugs being available in Scotland but not England.
  • The Barnett formula, which provides considerably more money to Scotland and Wales compared with England, based on relative populations.
  • The denigration of any attempt to express support for England or Englishness.
  • Government forms, such as those for the Census, which do not recognise English nationality.
  • MPs from Scottish constituencies being over represented in the United Kingdom Parliament, having 72 existing MPs instead of the 57 that would be a fair and equitable comparison with the representation of English constituencies.

3 Responses to “Questions”

  1. 1
    Omni
    Comment by “Omni”

    If a parliament for England were to be created then the form I would like to see it
    take is a 200 member parliament elected every four years by universal sufferage by the single transferable vote method. There should be ten constituencies within England each being roughly the same size +-1%. Each constituency elects 20 members ten male, 10 female, each constituent having two votes one for a male MP and one for a female MP. The one thing that should be banned are party lists as these are profoundly undemocratic as they do not allow the electorate to get rid of a member of parliament who is not wanted by them.
    I would also reform the House of Commons along the same lines only on a UK wide basis giving that 200 members as well. Reform of the House of Lords would see that reduced to 200 as well on a fully elected basis as above, the only difference being that members would be elected for a once only 14 year term, this would give them some independence from their parties when elected and that half the house should be elected every seven years so that in each seat there is a senior and junior member, alternating every seven years between the male and female member. Party whips should only be allowed on manifesto commitments on all other issues it should be banned. The above would overall lead to a reduction of
    46 on the number of MPs on the UK parliament that is now in session, but would also mean the removal of all members of the House of Lords so there would be some considerable saving on current parliamentary costs although there would be the need for a new building for the English parliament. Salaries for English MPs should be set at 2x, ministers3.5x and first minister 5.5x the English average wage, whereas the salary for UK MPs and members of the new Lords chamber should be set at 2.5x UK average salary, junior minister 4x, senior ministers 5x and the Prime Minister 7x.

  2. 2
    aelwulf
    Comment by “aelwulf”

    4 yearly parliaments ? Too long . 1 or 2 yearly parliaments is an old English demand- Chartists, Putney debates etc- always ignored by the British state

    I think 3 years is about right

  3. 3
    Omni
    Comment by “Omni”

    I can live with that.

    Would like to see MPs final salary index linked pension closed and them all put on a money purchase scheme like the ones they have forced most of the private sector on by their actions.

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