16 May
British nationalist Scots
The belligerence within the English tradition is still a fresh memory and for some people the national flag is associated with football violence.
The British flag is associated with the racist far-left BNP and the violent Brit-Scot nationalist Rangers fans and Bragg has the nerve to claim that the Cross of St George is associated with violence?
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I don’t know why you’ve turned this into an attack on Bragg (actually, I do, but hey…)
You missed what he says next:
“We need to find a way to overcome that reticence and repossess the symbols of what it means to be English. St George’s Day can help us do that if we can make it less inward looking and more like St Patrick’s Day where everyone can be Irish for the day, wherever they come from.”
May 16th, 2008 at 10:42 amBritish Nationalist [Scots] - *the* sworn enemy.
Words alone cannot do justice to the contempt I have for these numpties. Pro-union thugs - that is - their Neanderthal brain cavity allows them to bang on about being pro-protestant/union.
You can’t say pro-union in a political sense. Sure, 90% will vote labour, if they vote at all - but they don’t actually know anything about politics.
They’re driven by something different altogether.
Where’s your ’shared values’ now Mr.Brown?
May 16th, 2008 at 11:19 amIt’s quite sad. As a Scot I don’t give a toss about either of the big two teams who play out of Glasgow and I cheered when Zenit St Petersburg scored against Rangers in Manchester. Neither fly the Saltire as their main flag.
What they are are the sporting wings of the Nationalist/Unionist war in Northern Ireland. The flying of the Union Flag by the Rangers supporters is all about the Union in Ireland not in Scotland. I suspect that a large proportion of the Rangers fans in Manchester were from Northern Ireland. In this photo the only flags on show are the Union Flag and the Flag of Northern Ireland.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_truth_is_hidden/2496905146/in/photostream/
Check out this photo of Celtic fans in Seville for the UEFA cup. It’s all tri-colours with two solitary saltires.
http://www.freewebs.com/celticphilips/sevillecrowd.jpg
The natural home of both teams is Ireland. Celtic in Dublin and Rangers in Belfast. Both teams should move there and Scotland would be well rid of them.
May 17th, 2008 at 11:28 amI see our noble premier has come to a startling revelation:
http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Union-rallying-cry-as-Brown.4090800.jp
“Now that we know that the Scottish National Party, at some point, want to break up the United Kingdom, and now that we know there is also an English lobby for a separate English parliament, the case for the United Kingdom and the integration of it has got to be put, and that is what I intend to do over the next few months.”
Eh? Is this arrogan eejit on the same planet as everyone else?
May 17th, 2008 at 5:56 pmIt was noticeable that the British media referred to the Rangers fans as just that. We know full well that if they had been fans of an English club in another country they would have been referred to as examples of the aggressive and violent English, thereby tarnishing the whole of Englishry.
Gordon Brown is on a journey to nowhere
May 20th, 2008 at 8:44 am